Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

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Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

Post by yvjjflores » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:21 pm

Greetings friends ...

Recently I have been doing flights with the Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II and I have noticed some details in the operational weights that entail that the flights are always penalized indicating that the maximum weight allowed for landing (MLW) has been exceeded.

FSAirlines' administrator friends have made the configuration and adjustment of weights in the aircraft database according to what Cessna-textron indicates in its website whose link I leave below:

http://cessna.txtav.com/en/piston/cessn ... odel-specs

According to the manufacturer, the aircraft has a MLW of 3600 lbs and MTOW of 3789 lbs despite the MRW of 3806 lbs, without leaving aside other references that indicate the MZFW of 3600 lbs:

https://www.globalair.com/aircraft-for- ... specid=748

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_20 ... Cessna_206

For our purposes using FSA, if we adjust weight to MTOW of 3789 lbs, we will ALWAYS get an excess weight when landing, this happens even without arriving (also penalized) without fuel.

The other situation is that we adjust our load to the MZFW of 3600 lbs, if we add 100 lbs of fuel and consume 99 lbs, we will also be penalized for what we would be landing with 3601 lbs.

Given this situation, what can we do to avoid such penalties? :?
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Re: Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

Post by Harvester » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:32 am

Hopefully the guys will recognize this mistake soon.
The U206G was certified in 1976 and has nothing to do with the current model.
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Re: Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

Post by joefremont » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:01 pm

We have now adjusted the 206G's mtow to better reflect the older aircraft and added a T206H to reflect the new model.

And remember exceeding the landing weight is a warning, not a penalty, there is no rating deduction associated with it.
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Re: Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

Post by yvjjflores » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:21 pm

joefremont wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:01 pm
We have now adjusted the 206G's mtow to better reflect the older aircraft and added a T206H to reflect the new model.

And remember exceeding the landing weight is a warning, not a penalty, there is no rating deduction associated with it.
Hi Joefremont...

How is the T206H identified in the database?

Only 4 models of the C206 are observed:

Cessna 206 Stationair
Cessna 206G Stationair 6 II
Cessna 206G Stationair 6 II Cargo
Cessna 206G Stationair 6 II Float

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Re: Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

Post by Buschpilot » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:06 pm

Hi,
So you should take the warning seriously,
from own experience...

Penaldies do not exist,
but after three warnings for excessive landing weight, the aircraft takes great damage
and only has 25% ...

A D-check is then due.
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Re: Flights Penalized for Excess Weight in Landing in Cessna U206G Stationair 6 II

Post by joefremont » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:48 pm

ITs not so much the number of times, damage is calculated by how much force the plane received when it hits the runway, if you land at or below MLW at 200fps or less very little damage will be received, as the speed and weight increases, damage will be more.
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