Taxi speed penalty during take-off run

[IslandBum]

Ok Ben -- that makes sense - however we have two pilots running fs9/Vista who have had serious problems thats why i made the comment -- however now I have a strange anonmaly -- Ive checked the aircraft and the route and Im not getting any passengers on a leg from Oban to Dundee -- I know Oban is NOT the most widely used place on earth - but Im getting
2500 kgs of cargo and NO pax --- and yes I have removed and reloaded the old flight plan to make sure


Ah well guess I will just haul 2500Kgs of Haggis and Haig from Oban to Dundee


Leif

[CAPFlyer]

Are you sure you're not flying a Cargo configured aircraft?

[IslandBum]

Thanks Chris

Yes I checked - same aircraft I have been flying all around that route - also checked to see if it
was built as a cargo DC3 and modiifed it for BOTH - no joy -- Im trying one more thing

In FSAirlines Oban is listed as EGEO and the scenery I have lists it as OBN

so we will see

Leif

[XR219]

Hi Leif,

I'm pretty sure most Scottish airports are EGP* (Other than farm strims etc) and I thought Oban's designation was EGPR?

[IslandBum]

hmmm Oban's own website says EGEO - along with some nice photos of their little terminal and tower there -


Leif

[DaveB]

Hi Guy's..

According to my Pooley's.. Oban (North Connel) doesn't have a 4 ltr designator and there is no EGEO in the decode section (could be out of date though) In FS.. it's listed as OBN. EGPR is Barra.. same part of the world but I wouldn't like to swim between the two

ATB

DaveB

[IslandBum]

off topic I know

I can understand the confusion -- after the Broadford identifier

For what its worth I was wrong it wasnt the Oban site its WIki (and we know how accurate that is)

and they verified through - http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=UK17679&sch=EGEO

my problem was the other way round -- my scenery listed it as OBN --- and FSAirlines list it as EGEO so I was getting a "not at the right airport" message

I would trust Pooleys over Aerodata anytime (but Im biased) also as Ben pointed out and I had always believed Scottish airports are EGP something

All this because we wanted to set up a flight down Loch Ness -- what ISNT clear is why FSairlines wouldnt let me load passengers at Oban

Leif

[DaveB]

Hi Leif..

Would it be possible to change the Afcad to reflect EGEO?? It wouldn't change the pax issue.. or maybe it would you know. If FSA presumed you were not at the correct airport to start with.. perhaps it wouldn't release the pax?? Dunno.. just a thought

I'm sure I've done flights there in the Rapide (FlyNET) but definately not under FSA.

Apologies for keeping this off topic

ATB

DaveB

[Quantum]

Hi Guys,

From the aircraft vs airport position point of view FSA will see you via your lat/lon as reported via fsuipc and compare that data to the nearest airport in the database and see that as your location. From a flight sim point of view it shouldn't matter what ICAO or ID is used for the scenery as FSA doesn't check that. The important thing is that the database has the airport in the correct location and that the designator used is the same for the flightplans and the airport.

I see the problem though :-

The ICAO's on the FSA website are in line with the FS9 database as currently that is what most users are on. There is already an existing airport on the database for OBN to which two VA's have routes. I see we now have a new airport EGEO to which only VHA have a route. Somehow a second airport has been added and approved without thorough checks. The lat/lon are slightly different so that is why, depending whether you were planned to OBN or EGEO and depending where you were parked the client was reporting you at the wrong airport. FS9 uses OBN as the ID and FSX uses EGEO as the ID.

Leif, you will have to change your two flightplans to/from OBN as I am about to delete EGEO from the database.

Regards

John

[Quantum]

Hi Leif,

EGEO is now deleted. Interestingly, the fuel price at 'EGEO' was $1.44 but is only $1.21 at OBN

Regards

John

[joefremont]

For 1.0.3 we reset the penalty back to the way it was in the flynet client, which is less strict. But we will try to make it more sophisticated in the future.

[DaveB]

Nothing wrong with sophistication Joe if it works

ATB

DaveB

[IslandBum]

back to OBN then


AS I said I modified to what was in FSAirlines

still not sure why the lack of passengers though - Hey ho -- Guess I will just haul Haggis and Haig as I said

Leif

[IslandBum]

John

Sorry my friend you have to put it back the way it was

I just recieved this email from Highland airways Ops office in inverness

perations <operations@highlandairways.co.uk> Add to Addresses Block Sender
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:23 PM
To: leifharding@cox.net Add to Addresses
Subject: RE: Oban airport
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Hi,

Its EGEO.

Thanks,

Ewan
HWYOPS

-----Original Message-----
From: leifharding@cox.net [leifharding@cox.net]
Sent: 26 September 2008 19:56
To: operations@highlandairways.co.uk
Subject: Oban airport


Hello just a quick question

I notice you operate into Oban airport -- all I can find is an IATA
indentifier of
OBN for it -- could you tell me what the ICAO indentifer is please??

Thanks in advance

Leif Harding
www.classicbritishfiles.com

Leif

[Quantum]

Leif,

FSA is aligned to FS9 and in FS9 it is OBN. As such, by the majority, it is more easily identifiable in the sim as OBN. This policy was made some time back. As and when most users become FSX users then I guess it may change. OBN existed in FlyNET and transferred to FSA. Whomever created the new airport and approved it for FlyNET/FSA were in error by doing so. I appreciate that the FS9 data may be out of date with the real world but that was what was decided some time back.

Regards

John