Agreed, however use common sense. If the -900 is able to handle 189 with the same number of exits, then obviously the -800 can as well given their is the available floor space, which their is. Also you are still ignoring the fact that i have already named three airlines that ALL HAVE 189 seats on their -800's and are FLYING THEM. the FAA does not control the world. It might be the case of the said "limits" being imposed on US airlines, but there are still 203 other countries on planet earth that do not follow our rules.CAPFlyer wrote: The FAA certification requirement is that the aircraft be able to empty out in 90 seconds. They limit the number of seats based on that. That's why the 737-900 is restricted as you say. I'm just going off what the type certificate sheets show.
Agreed again. But what does typical mean? Normal or average. You cant have a normal or average if the plane cant physically seat that ammount. Thats like saying this 5 gallon tank typcially holds 8 gallons. Its not possible and eventually someone would catch on to it and would correct the info.CAPFlyer wrote: BTW, Boeing doesn't give max seating information on some of their aircraft in any of their documents, only "typical seating" arrangements, this includes the 787-8. However, if you look through their Detailed Technical Specifications on the 737, you'll find that every one of them says "FAA Exit Limit" next to the maximum capacity.
noramally i would agree, but boeing has no reason to lie in a press release when its simply about how the aircraft is being certified. Its not like they are comparing it against something from airbus which they might have a reason to try and play something in their favor. Something about certification is straight forward. It is what it is, it cant be changed. With everthing being public on the 787 and boeing posting about every little milestone, why was their no video on the 90 sec evac? because they never did one because they certified it using the 767 number's and certificate.CAPFlyer wrote: BTW, what they say in a press release is worthless. They're PRESS RELEASES, they're put out there to make Boeing look good and nothing more. You show me technical documentation that shows my data is wrong and I'll look at it. But the FAA is the certification authority for all these airplanes, not Boeing. I don't care what Boeing thinks they can carry, if the FAA says that the plane can carry "X" number of passengers on the Type Certificate, then that's all it can carry. Period.
I would have given you the seating charts from all the airlines websites as well, but most are all tour operators which have multiple airlines and dont have specific sites for each airline. Spicejet was the only carrier that had the maps on their own site. This is also not a complete list as their are plenty of airlines that arent listed on seatguru.
For the 767-300
fly Thomas Cook- 333 seats (1 Class)
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Thomas ... ng_767.php
Monarch Airlines- 309 seats (2 class)
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Monarc ... 67-300.php
Air India Express- 189
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air_In ... -800_B.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ryanai ... 37-800.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/SAS_Ai ... 37-800.php
Spice Jet- 189
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/SpiceJ ... 37-800.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/TUIfly ... 37-800.php
EDIT: found the article. I was wrong, it wasnt a press release. It was a flight global article from an interview. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... on-345176/
and as for the -400ER, you are correct it is 409, which i appoligize for. Never did quite understand why the -400er only could carry 25 more than the -300 but it had the same length of a strech as the -300 did from the 200 which increased passenger count by a much higher number.
Edit II: while looking for more info, came upon this in a discussion about this very topic on a.net:
in the same thread, one posted who either is a 767 pilot or flies for Monarch and said their airline has 767-300's in 328 seat configs.For the record, according the 767 Type certificate :
763 is certified for a maximum of 290 passengers with 3 pairs of Type A plus 1 pair of Type III exits,
763 is certified for a maximum of 351 passengers with 3 pairs of Type A plus 1 pair of Type I exits.