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Flight scheduling

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:51 pm
by MadJosch
Hi,

another idea of mine:
Can we add the possibility to predefine flights in a schedule for the VA? The pilots can choose or book that given flight by clicking accept.

That could be that the VA creates a schedule for a special task, let's say a round trip to all EU capitals. All of the flights have to be accomplished one after the other. (may be suitable for VA-events)
Or simply a daily schedule, where you can pick a flight you want.

The idea is: to give the pilots choices instead of picking their own flights. By this way they may be curious about flights they never did before or even if they ran out of own ideas where to fly today.

Examples:

Round trip
[dep] -> [dest] [date] [time] [a/c] accept
1. EDDB -> LFPG 01.02.10 12:00 B738/D-ABCD
2. LFPG -> LIRF 02.02.10 13:00 B738/D-ABCD
3. LIRF -> >ELLX 03.02.10 14:00 B738/D-ABCD
...

Daily tasks
[fltnr] [dep] -> [dest] [date] [time] [a/c] accept
FLT1234 EDDF -> EDDH every day 10:50 B738/D-ABCD accept
FLT4321 EBBR -> EGLL mondays and tuesdays 11:05 A321/OE-LAB accept
...

I hope you get the idea.


Joerg

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:11 pm
by CAPFlyer
The system is currently doing exactly what you describe. It is up to your VA to define how you use them. Venture Hawaii and CBFS VA (the two I have good familiarity with) use both linear and 'round-robin' flights and pilots are told to try to fly them in order. In addition, the days of operation and the times of operation are setup so that these flights have logical turn-around times at each airport as well.

If you want a "special" flight where it can only be flown once, then you simply set that restriction when entering the flight into the database.

We will be updating the flight addition coding in the hopefully near future to make the process more automated where you define the aircraft type(s) to be used on the flight before entering the destination and times and then it will automatically ensure that your route is within the range of the aircraft and then automatically define the arrival time based on the selected type(s) cruising speed, thus simplifying your calculations, especially on routes that may involve several types which have similar but not identical cruising speeds. For routes which you have widely differing aircraft performance we suggest (as we have in the past) that a separate set of flights be setup for those aircraft with separate flight times to ensure that, if you track your on time performance, you have a proper amount of time in which to complete the flight.

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:54 pm
by MadJosch
You are absolutely right. I am aware that the system already has these mechanics - at least basically to that I described. Therefore it shoudnt be tricky to add the things from my thoughts.

I try to clarify a bit:

Currently our managers set up flights including departure, destination, time, a/c etc.
This sets up our complete "portofolio" of available flights. The pilots now choose a flight they want, book it, choose a plane and fly it.
So far - so good.

What I meant with my idea is:
I'd like to assign a single flight (from our whole "collection" of flightplans) to a certain date, time, plane and even to the pilot who has to fly that flight then as scheduled.
In other words: on monday, pilot ABC has 2 flights scheduled: 1. FLT1234 at 12:00 with plane D-ABCD, then FLT4321 at 14:00 with plane D-ACCC

Or for the part of the event set of flights:
To accomplish the event all flights have to be flown in the given order with the aircraft specified and to the given dates/times

The Pilots should have a "list" of choices of predefined flights for that day/event that they can choose.

Other example:
A VA might want a new pilot to do some training flights prior to be rated for the "real" ones.
So the VA schedules some training flights for that particular pilot he has to perform.

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:22 pm
by CAPFlyer
Again, I think that is something that should be left up to the VA's internal rules, not the network. It's a lot of programming to get what you're wanting and adds a lot of complexity to those VA's that don't want it (i.e. you would have to select which method to use and if you want to mix, it's more work).

I think it's handled a lot better internally where the VA simply specifies what they want -

i.e. - "Pilots will fly all linear route flights consecutively and will not transfer to other routes prior to completing the one they've started."
or - "Pilots will bid on and be assigned flights at the beginning of each month."

Then, you can use however you like to track and maintain the system. 95% of pilots are going to be honest and abide by the internal rules as long as you're up front with them and it won't require anything more from you than just to write a few lines in the "rules" for your VA.

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:04 pm
by aserafyn
Can you add a feature to search/make Flight Planes by IATA airport code.I think this will be very useful for FP creators.
Thanks

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:56 pm
by Vjacheslav
aserafyn wrote:Can you add a feature to search/make Flight Planes by IATA airport code.I think this will be very useful for FP creators.
Thanks
http://www.world-airport-database.com :)

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:05 am
by CAPFlyer
Flight planning is done by ICAO code, not IATA.

IATA is used exclusively for ticketing and baggage handling. Thus, only airports which are serviced by common carrier airlines have IATA codes. Smaller airports served by charter, non-scheduled, or cargo-only airlines don't always have IATA codes.

Re: Flight scheduling

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:19 pm
by aserafyn
Hi,again)
I have request, can you make FlightPlan filter , to search/show flights within a milage. Expl: show all routes that are 1000 miles long.