Ticket Factor and how it works.

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Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by Quantum » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:04 pm

Please see THIS POST concerning new method of applying ticket factors.



Hi,

Some of you have noticed the recent adition on the aircraft type page of a 'Ticket Factor'. By default, all aircraft on FSA have started at value 1. It has long been recognised that certain aircraft types are unable to be operated profitably on the FSA economy. The types that suffer most are the business jets, Concorde and several older less fuel efficient aircraft. Now that the client will no longer allow you to fly a route until your aircraft is within it's weight limitations some aircraft that could just turn a profit will now struggle.

So how does the ticket factor work? It's very simple :-

If an aircraft has a 1.25 ticket factor for example, it means it's 'Standard' fare will be 25% higher than that of any aircraft which has a 1.0 ticket factor. For comparison between VA's ticket prices on the same route, all ticket prices are compared by % of the 'Standard' fares. So if one VA has a standard ticket price of $100 on a route which is operated by an aircraft with a factor of 1.0 and a second VA has a standard ticket price of $125 on a route which is operated by an aircraft with a factor of 1.25 then the fares are treated as being the same i.e. 100% standard fare. Neither of the VA's will have a competetive advantage as they are standard fares for that type of aircraft.

For flightplans already on the system, VA's will need to alter the prices to take advantage of the enhancement. If your VA operates any of the types which have an enhanced ticket factor applied, this is what you must do :-

1. Go to your flightplan page.

2. Leave (all airports) in the drop down.

3. Choose the affected aircraft type from the drop down.

4. Press the select button and wait for the page to load.

5. Scroll to bottom and 'Select All'

6. From ticket price drop down select '100% standard price'

7. Select 'Update'

8. Repeat steps 1 - 7 for each of your types with enhanced ticket factors.

That's it, all your fares will now have had the ticket factor applied and all fares will be increased accordingly. Subsequent flightplans can be entered individually as normal and when you get to set the fare, the ticket price you see will be the enhanced 100% standard fare for the type. If you batch upload flightplans for a type with enhanced ticket factor and leave the fare field empty, it will also automatocally insert the 100% standard fare for the type.

Important Any aircraft types which have an increased ticket factor should have seperate flightplans and not be a mixed type flightplan as the standard fare will default to the lowest ticket factor of the types on the plan. If you have existing multi-type flightplans and one or more types now have the enhanced TF then to get the higher ticket price you will need to remove those types from the flightplan and submit individual flightplan.

Once we see what profit levels are being attained we may have to adjust the factor up/down as required so that no undue advantage is given. Once set they shouldn't need changing again. We will endeavour to notify you if any ticket factors get altered.

Some of the pre-existing types on FlyNET had maximum certified high density seating configurations to try and make them turn in a small profit. Now that we are able to apply these ticket factors those aircraft will have their seating capacities reduced to a more typical seating arrangement.


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The list :
Aerospatiale/BAE Concorde
Airbus A319 Elite
Airbus A319 CJ
Airspeed Ambassador
Antonov An-10
Antonov An-2
Antonov AN-24RV
Antonov AN-26
Aviation Traders ATL-98 Carvair 2
Avro Lancastrian
Avro York combi
Avro York pax
Beechcraft D18S
Boeing 234
Boeing 314
Boeing 377
Boeing 707-120
Boeing 707-320
Boeing 707-320B
Boeing 707-320C
Boeing 707-420
Boeing 727-100
Boeing 727-200
Boeing 727-200 Adv
Boeing 737-200
Boeing 737-200 Adv
Boeing 737-200QC
Boeing 737-7ET (BBJ)
Boeing 747-100
Boeing 747-200
Boeing B247D
Boeing BBJ1/2/3
Bombardier Challenger 300
Bréguet 763 Deux Ponts
Bristol 170 Mk31 Freighter - Combi
Bristol 170 MK32 Freighter - Combi
Bristol Britannia 250/300
British Aerospace 1-11-200
British Aerospace 1-11-400
British Aerospace 1-11-500
British Aerospace 146-100
British Aerospace 146-200
British Aerospace 146-300
Canadair C-4 Argonaut
Cessna Citation 680 Sovereign
Cessna Citation CJ1
Cessna Citation Encore+
Cessna Citation II
Cessna Citation IISP
Cessna Citation X
Cessna Citation XLS
Convair 240
Convair 340
Convair 440
Convair 580
Convair 640
Convair 880
Convair 990A
Dassault Falcon 50
De Havilland Comet 4
De Havilland Comet 4B
De Havilland DH.104 Dove
De Havilland DH.89 Rapide
De Havilland DH114 Srs 1 Heron
De Havilland DH114 Srs 2 Heron
DeHavilland Comet 4C
DeHavilland DH91 Albatross
Douglas DC-3
Douglas DC-4
Douglas DC-6B
Douglas DC-7C
Douglas DC-8-30
Douglas DC-8-71
Douglas DC-8-72
Douglas DC-8-73
Embraer ERJ-135BJ
Embraer Legacy 600
Fokker F-27 MK 100 Friendship
Fokker F-27 MK 200 Friendship
Fokker F-27 MK 400 Friendship
Fokker F-27 MK 500 Friendship
Fokker F-27 MK 600 Friendship
Fokker F-28 Mk 1000 Fellowship
Fokker F-28 Mk 4000 Fellowship
Ford Tri-Motor
Grumman G21A Goose
Grumman G44 Widgeon
Gulfstream IV
Gulfstream V
Handley Page Dart Herald
Handley Page Halton
Hawker Beechcraft Hawker 400XP
Hawker Siddeley HS.748
Hawker Siddeley HS780
Hawker Siddeley Trident 2
Hawker Siddeley Trident 3
Howard 500
Ilyushin IL-14
Ilyushin Il-18V Coot
Ilyushin Il-62M
Junker 52/m
Learjet 35A
Learjet 45
Learjet 60
Lockheed Electra 10A
Lockheed Hudson
Lockheed L-049 Constellation
Lockheed L-1011-1
Lockheed L-1011-500
Lockheed L-1049G
Lockheed L-188A Electra
McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-10
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-21
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-40
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-50
Miles Marathon
NAMC YS-11A-200
Short S45 Solent
Short Skyvan
Shorts 330-200
Shorts 360
Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle
Tupolev 104A
Tupolev 104B
Tupolev 134A
Tupolev Tu-114
Tupolev TU-124V
Tupolev Tu-134
Tupolev Tu-144
Tupolev Tu-154B2
Tupolev Tu-154M
Vickers Super VC10
Vickers Vanguard 953
Vickers VC10
Vickers Viking
Vickers Viscount 700srs
Vickers Viscount 800srs
Yakovlev Yak-40
Yakovlev Yak-40 VIP
Yakovlev Yak-40K

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All other aircraft types not in the above list have default ticket factor. ALL cargo aircraft including variants of the above have default ticket factor as cargo revenue is calculated differently.

Regards

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by flightsimer » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:32 pm

quick queston, just wanna make sure i completely understand it.

does the ticket factor automatically go in on its own? here is what i mean. say i have a 737-800 flight for $125 and its above the standard price by $25. i put a concorde on that route, now when i set it up i put it up to 125 too. now will the ticket factor still work (125x4)or does it have to be at standard ($400)? if that is the case why? shouldnt we still be able to charge over standard and get the ticket factor (125x4)?

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by Quantum » Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:38 pm

Hi,

Once your existing flightplans have been altered as per the above procedure and you have seperate flightplans for your enhanced tf aircraft, the tf and flightplans will be in harmony. All subsequent plans you insert at standard price for the type will show enhanced fares if applicable. For example if you put a flightplan in for an aircraft with tf 1 on a route which has a standard fare of $100, when you see the next page to insert the fare it will show default $100 (100% standard price for that aircraft )which you can change +/- as you wish. If you put a flightplan in for the same route with an aircraft which has a tf of 2, when you see the next page to insert fare it will show default $200 (100% standard price for that aircraft )which you can change +/- as you wish. All ticket prices are relative to the 100% standard fare for that aircraft type and you can change them up/down as you wish if that is your desire. If you want a 10% higher fare for each of the aircraft then you can do so

Flightplans for aircraft with an enhanced ticket factor must be on their own or with other types which have the same ticket factor. If you add a flightplan which has an aircraft with a lower ticket factor, the standard fare inserted for that flightplan is that of the aircraft with the lowest tf. Lets say you are inserting a plan for a route which is $100 for a standard tf1 aircraft and you select two aircraft types to use the flightplan, one with tf1 and the other with tf2. When you get to the insert ticket price page it will be showing $100 which is 100% stndard fare for the tf1 aircraft but only 50% standard fare of the tf2 aircraft. If you change the price to $200 that is a standard 100% fare for the tf2 aircraft it then becomes a 200% standard fare for the tf1 aircraft so your pax load will suffer/be zero when you fly the plan with the tf1 aircraft! That is why you must seperate the plans.

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by Brian Peace » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:15 pm

Sure makes a lot of fiddling around for CEO's with over 400 current flight plans and a LOT of the listed types. So now I am going to need an additional 400 flights...? seems a bit tedious... isn't there a way to just have the aircraft used ON the flight set the standard fare UP by a certain percentage when calculating the flight? I gotta admit... I wont do this... whole... making another 400 flights ... thing.. there's gotta be a better way... I do appreciate the work put in though I'm just stating the obvious :)

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by flightsimer » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:52 pm

ok so then it already take the tf into account before the ticket prices, that wat i wasnt sure on. if it was before or after... thanks

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by dgor » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:40 pm

Hi,

I notice the TF cannot be input by a user creating an aircraft. I would like to add the Embraer Lineage 1000 bizjet to the database - will we have to post here if the TF may need changed on an aircraft?

Great idea, thanks for implementing :)

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by CAPFlyer » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:42 pm

No, we will set the Ticket Factor when it is accepted. However, I cannot find that any of the Lineage's have been delivered yet, so we can't accept it to the database until that has occured.
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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by flightsimer » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:30 am

CAPFlyer wrote:No, we will set the Ticket Factor when it is accepted. However, I cannot find that any of the Lineage's have been delivered yet, so we can't accept it to the database until that has occured.
yes one has been built and is flying

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by CAPFlyer » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:22 am

Yes, but FSAirlines requires it to be delivered and in service before we show it as "in production".
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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by dgor » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:03 pm

Thanks CAP :)

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Re: Ticket Factor and how it works.

Post by Quantum » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:37 pm

Please see THIS POST concerning new method of applying ticket factors.
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