EXPLANATION: New refueling method!

Post by **DaKurt** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:20 pm

Hei guys,
please read this before using the new refueling method!

The second refueling method which is now available in FlyNET is called "COMPARE", because it compares the amount of fuel left from the last flight with the amount of fuel you put in manually in Flight Simulator. In order to get it right, you have to start FS and fuel your plane BEFORE you start the client!

Furthermore the different amount of fuel in different tanks (Center Main, Center 2, Center 3, Right Main, Right Aux, Right Tip, Left Main, Left Aux, Left Tip) are now saved seperately. In the previous version only the sum was saved.

ATTENTION:
If you put less fuel in you aircraft than you already own it will be gone without a compensation!

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:05 am

I just started a flight with it and I LIKE the new look and feel. I have to retrain my brain now to convert KG into LBS. I was getting used to KG.

So far I LIKE the compare method as it makes me think more!

ivanT3 · Post by **ivanT3** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:35 am

Yeah, the new fuel choices are very hip. Thanks for working on this. You got it right this time and I sure appreciate your taking the time. Nice job!!

Ivan........................

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:24 am

I have been using the compare method now for many flights. I must say that I REALLY like it!

Post by **DaKurt** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:21 pm

that's great! thank's

cheers DaKurt

UKD192 · Post by **UKD192** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:51 pm

How does it work ? Is the 'Compare' method of refuelling for the 'arcade' style of FlyNET ?
This is my dilema.
For realism and the fact it makes proper economical sense, UKD load more fuel at the airports with cheap fuel (always keeping below MTOW of course) and less at aiports with expensive fuel. So, on some flights we fly in to an aiport with enough fuel to get out to our next destination because the fuel is so expensive.
I cannot get the 'Standard' method to work, (Fuel goes to Zero), so I must use the compare method. How does the Client know where the fuel came from ? The prices differences at airports are 1.11v$ to 1.54v$, thats a hike of nearly 50%, can't afford to run around ignoring the cost of fuel like this.
(Should I post ths in the 'bugs' forum ?)

Cheers now
Rob

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:15 pm

The compare method is in my opinion not the arcade method the standard is the arcade method in my thinking if you have to call one arcade.

The compare method looks at what you put in your tanks and compares what you had then charges you for any extra above what was in your tanks. For me it allows me to put fuel in the tanks that I want for balance. The other method does not take in to consideration where to put the fuel.

UKD192 · Post by **UKD192** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:42 pm

Wolfar100 wrote:The compare method looks at what you put in your tanks and compares what you had then charges you for any extra above what was in your tanks.

Not here it doesn't, it charges me for the fuel I burnt during the flight. Look at the example below.
A short (20min) flight with a Saab 340 in Scotland. Loaded no fuel, and got charged for the fuel used during the flight.
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Pilot in Command Pilot ID Date
Rob Wright UKD102 Jan 20, 13:11

Flight Number Virtual Airline Max Sim-Rate Used
UKD3061 : UK Direct : 1x
A/C Type Registration PAX
SF34 G-UKDP 34

Departure Planned Arrival Arrival Distance Duration Block Fuel
EGPH \ 10:04 EGPF EGPF \ 10:27 36nm 00:23 (0.4h) -842151055kg ???????

Pilot Rating Critique
100% a perfect flight

Comment
not sure about the fuel !

Finances
Income from tickets: PAX ( 34 ) x Ticketprice ( 61v$ ) 2074v$
Fuel cost: Fuel Price ( 1.12v$ ) x 1.234 x Fuel Bought ( 184kg ) -254v$ <--- wrong, this looks like fuel burnt on the trip to me ??
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I'll go and do the return trip and see what happens - good stuff this Beta

Btw sorry if the 'arcade' came across the wrong way - eerrmm . . . . the 'easier' refueling method better ?
Cheers now
Rob

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:40 pm

Got to ask the question, could it be a problem with the Saab?

My figures are for a 777-300 Boeing.

Now this was from empty fueling going to San Francisco.

Fuel cost: Fuel Price ( 1.67v$ ) x 1.234 x Fuel Bought ( 22578kg ) -46528v$

I will have to see what the return trip does.

This was a flight to and from Anchorage Alaska from Phoenix Az. It charged me only the extra fuel that I bought and at the price in Alaska. So I am not sure why your getting what your getting for results.

To Alaska >>>>>> Fuel cost: Fuel Price ( 1.67v$ ) x 1.234 x Fuel Bought ( 54372kg ) -112049v$

From Alaska >>>>> Fuel cost: Fuel Price ( 1.48v$ ) x 1.234 x Fuel Bought ( 30879kg ) -56395v$

UKD192 · Post by **UKD192** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:45 pm

Done another flight
and . . . .
Egg on Face . . . <splat>.

This client is very clever, you are quiet correct it does charge for fuel that you load, and not fuel burnt. I must try to read and understand English a little better.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers now
Rob

avalonceo · Post by **avalonceo** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:39 pm

I am really liking the individual tanks refuelling method! Great job! Just want to express my gratitude for Flynet! You guys never cease to amaze me with your dedication to this project.

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:32 am

UKD192 wrote:Done another flight
and . . . .
Egg on Face . . . <splat>.
This client is very clever, you are quiet correct it does charge for fuel that you load, and not fuel burnt. I must try to read and understand English a little better.
Thanks for your help.

Cheers now
Rob

No worries glad I could help a bit.

fdx183 · Post by **fdx183** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:12 am

Somebody help a newbie...I am used to lbs because that's the way my flight simulator calulates...So I suppose you have to take from the FS2004 lbs and convert it to kg however, I find that after accessing the client and etc...I am no longer able to access FS2004 again to change the fuel...So what do we do...Maybe somebody can find a simple program that will do this....I know this doesn't make sense to all you advanced pilots, but I need some simple guidance on this subject...

AdmiralRolfe · Post by **AdmiralRolfe** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:27 am

To convert lbs to kg, multiply by 0.4536 to get kg.

Post by **Quantum** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:07 pm

Hi,

This is a very old thread and the refuelling has changed a bit since. I suggest you read this thread which gives you a bit of a walkthrough. You should not try and change your fuel once you have loaded the client. Load your fuel in the sim before you start the client or if your sim model is compatable use the client to do all the refuelling. The walkthrough explains it all.

Regards

John

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