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Question about 737-300SF

Post by lexarne » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:05 pm

Hello ladies and gentlemen,
I have a question abot the 737-300SF hence the title...so here it is what does the "SF" stand for..

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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by flightsimer » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:11 pm

special freighter i beleive... its just a converted 737-300 from passenger service to a cargo -300
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by lexarne » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:36 pm

AHHH, Thank you for your help!

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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by CAPFlyer » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:54 pm

SF technically stands for "Special Freighter". The "Special" is that it's an aircraft either converted by Boeing or converted using the Boeing plans & methods into a Freighter and not delivered as such or done by another company. There are "SF" versions of all of the Boeing Commerical lines available.
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by lexarne » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:54 pm

AAAH ok that makes a lot of sense

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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by flightsimer » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:06 am

CAPFlyer wrote:SF technically stands for "Special Freighter". The "Special" is that it's an aircraft either converted by Boeing or converted using the Boeing plans & methods into a Freighter and not delivered as such or done by another company. There are "SF" versions of all of the Boeing Commerical lines available.
adding on, most of boeing's heavy aircraft get the BCF added, which stands for boeing converted freighter (767-300, 747's, MD-11, DC/MD-10). i didnt think boeing did any of the conversions for the smaller aircraft? if they did, wouldnt they also be bca instead of sf?
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by CAPFlyer » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:47 am

You are right. "BCF" is the nomenclature for the aircraft converted by Boeing. "SF" is the nomenclature for aircraft converted using Boeing plans.

The following are available -

737-300/400/500SF
747-200/300/400SF
747-400BCF
757-200/300SF
767-200/300SF
767-300BCF
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by flightsimer » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:45 pm

are there any 757-300SF in service or just available for conversion? if there are we need them here :)
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by CAPFlyer » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:36 pm

They're available. Don't have any evidence of any having been converted yet.
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by Quantum » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:27 pm

Hi,

Just to jump in here before anyone decides to add a heap more aircraft variants, I think we have to be sensible and determine if the differences between a 'SF' and a 'BCF' or indeed an 'F' are significant enough to warrant a seperate type on the database. I would guess that the weights would be the same/similar and not enough to concern anyone, so effectively you might be trying to create a new type just because the suffix is different. I'd have thought the majority of aircraft would fit well into the either B7x7-x00, B7x7-x00QC or B7x7-x00F.

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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by flightsimer » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:46 pm

BCF's/SF's should be cheaper if they are entered since they arent brand new, but are converted aircraft that already have a good amount of time on them...

i think instead of being able to buy BCF's/SF's from FSA or the manufacture (excludes airlines selling them) you have to first buy a passenger version then have it converted into the SF/BCF. you could use this idea about conversions and seating with it...
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by CAPFlyer » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:00 pm

Well, for now, I think the only time we'll add "SF" or "BCF" is for those aircraft which were not originally offered in a freighter variant or where the most common variant is the converted freighter done to Boeing specs. As it is, the only 737-300 or 737-400 freighters are "SF" aircraft, so there's not an issue. As well, there's no 757-300F that was ever delivered, so the only one available (if any were built) would be the 757-300SF. But for aircraft like the 767 and 747 which were offered and delivered from the factory as a freighter, the "F" variant will be the only one in the database until things like conversions are added to the capabilities of the system.
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by Brian Peace » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:35 am

I dont want to hijack this thread but have they ever considered "combi" aircraft? Air Canada used to run a fleet of 747-400 combi's.

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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by flightsimer » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:46 pm

we have combis here... if its boeing they end in M's. we need to have the 757-200M added though... but we have the 747-400M and a 737 (cant remember which one it is, its a classic) combi
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Re: Question about 737-300SF

Post by CAPFlyer » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:59 am

Oddly, the only Combis ever delivered in the 757 series used the "C" nomenclature.
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