Hawaii

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:24 am

I tried to make a flight to Hawaii. Is it not in the data base?

CAPFlyer · Post by **CAPFlyer** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:18 am

Uhh.. I don't know of any Airport or Country called Hawaii. There's a state in the US called Hawaii and it has quite a few airports in the database however.

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:22 am

CAPFlyer wrote:Uhh.. I don't know of any Airport or Country called Hawaii. There's a state in the US called Hawaii and it has quite a few airports in the database however.

Tried that did not see it, will look again.

Post by **joefremont** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:30 am

Honolulu = PHNL
Kahului (Maui) = PHOG

IslandBum · Post by **IslandBum** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:18 am

I tried to make a flight to Hawaii. Is it not in the data base?

Wow thats pretty strange seeing as VHA is based there and operates 6x 748s 3 1-11s and 3 Argosies , 2 Skyvans and 2 Doves Interisland, Plus I keep my own person Chipmunk at Hana (PHHN) If you want to see how many airports there are take a look at Ventures Schedules.

Mahalo

Leif

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:50 am

I was trying KHOG I did not know it started with a "P"!

CAPFlyer · Post by **CAPFlyer** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:59 pm

Alaska and Hawaii are regarded by the ICAO as being in the "Pacific" region, thus they get "P" codes. Airports in the lower 48 get "K" codes, and the US protectorates/provinces in the Caribbean get "T" codes (along with the rest of the Caribbean island airports).

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:38 pm

CAPFlyer wrote:Alaska and Hawaii are regarded by the ICAO as being in the "Pacific" region, thus they get "P" codes. Airports in the lower 48 get "K" codes, and the US protectorates/provinces in the Caribbean get "T" codes (along with the rest of the Caribbean island airports).

I see, so there is logic to it!

PlutonianEmpire · Post by **PlutonianEmpire** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:32 pm

CAPFlyer wrote:Alaska and Hawaii are regarded by the ICAO as being in the "Pacific" region, thus they get "P" codes. Airports in the lower 48 get "K" codes, and the US protectorates/provinces in the Caribbean get "T" codes (along with the rest of the Caribbean island airports).

Why "k"? why not "u" for "US", or "A" for america/american, or whatever?

IslandBum · Post by **IslandBum** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:53 pm

Orginally US Registrations were to be K-AAAA etc etc etc

Leif

CAPFlyer · Post by **CAPFlyer** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:14 pm

Actually Leif, the origins of the use of "N-numbers" vice "K" numbers is because Aircraft Registrations are governed by the ITU (International Telegraph Union) as aircraft registrations are actually radio station licenses. The ITU was founded in 1865, long before the ICAO, thus registrations continued to be assigned under ITU guidelines (see Article 20 in the ICAO Chicago Conventions). The ICAO was founded in 1948 as part of the United Nations.

Info on Aircraft Registrations can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_prefix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... tion_Union

Info on ICAO Airport Codes can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO

Edit: Sorry Leif, misspelled your name the first time...

IslandBum · Post by **IslandBum** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:27 am

Thanks Chris

I knew of the ITU rulings but was trying to keep things simple - IF the K-A registrations had been used we would have been in a hell of a mess here in the States

Thanks for getting the name spelt correctly LOL

Leifur